. ♪ [ engine revs ] ♪ >>> it was vice president joe biden who is kind of in the minority of people this morning who think president obama was the big winner in the debate last night. liste listen. >> if you just finished watching the debate like i did, i'm sure you're as proud of president obama as i am. i have been saying for a long time this election presents the starkest choice in my memory. the president did a wonderful job in making it clear just how stark that choice is. >> well, i think he's right about the election presents the starkest choice in his memory. polls, though, and pundits on both sides don't agree with the other parts of what he said. much of the debate focused on issues, much of the buzz was that mitt romney came out strong while president obama was actually not strong. let's bring in the man who advised the president about the economy for years. austan goolsbee. nice to have you with us. the first interesting conversation, i thought, was this $5 trillion tax cut. let's play what the president said. let's play what mitt romney had as a rejoineder and then we'll dis